Thursday, June 14, 2007

some good stuff

There are a couple of excellent discussions going on right now. Jason has put up a series of great posts about pre-testing that have even engaged Nigel Hollis at Millward Brown.

I've probably been through more pre-testing this year than I care to think about and I've found that getting into arguments about whether it predicts in market results or not are slightly besides the point. Predicting in market results is virtually impossible, whether it's with pre-testing, econometrics or voodoo. Lets also put aside the issue of whether these tests use a model of advertising that reflects reality given that this is something in flux (or that we don;t know).

Barring a real in market test (which I've gotten some of my clients to do), the best thing a pre-test might ever do is teach us how to make a spot better. After all, isn't that the role of research - to make us smarter. This is where the quant tests fall down for me. Even if I believed that they worked (I don't) they do not give us any clue about why a spot is not connecting with people. Granted, finding that out in qual means some careful probing and knowing what to listen (and not to listen) to - but at least there's a chance of doing it.

4 Comments:

Nigel Hollis said...

Hi Mark,
You might be interested to see that Dr. Robert Heath has now joined the debate.
http://www.mb-blog.com/index.php/2007/05/18/in-defense-of-pre-testing/
I would love to hear more about why you say pre-tests "do not give us any clue about why a spot is not connecting with people." Is it the tests or the way they get handled and reported?
Thanks,
Nigel

Charles Frith said...

I'm right behind you Nigel rustling up the planning community :)

Jason said...

Hey Mark -
Thanks for the shout out. The link seems to be broken though.
Over on Nigel's blog, Erik Duplessis has also joined the discussion in response to Heath. Nigel's responded too. Lots of good stuff.
With regards to pre-testing not helping to make spots better, there are methodologies that incorporate qual sessions alongside the quant. That still presumes, though, that your idea can be fairly represented in pre-finished form. I still don't see how certain types of ads can be pre-tested, though.
J

Mark Lewis said...

Thanks for the comments guys. The link should be corrected and I am going to post again to keep up with all this.